The Rule of the Rapists, Continued

Posted: March 31, 2009 in Uncategorized
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The U.S. government wants your sons and daughters to kill and be killed for this:

Hamid Karzai signs law ‘legalising rape in marriage’

President Hamid Karzai has signed a law the UN says legalises rape in marriage and prevents women from leaving the house without permission.

Let’s not pretend that the war in Afghanistan is a battle between progressive, enlightened factions that care about women and those who want to subjugate them. We’re backing these guys.

Rule of the Rapists, indeed.

Get us out of Afghanistan now.

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  2. Sporkmaster says:

    Remember in my post about those ten points, the one that talks about supporting women’s rights? Also how that I said that trying to push those laws might seen as outsiders interfering with their lives? Well seems that there was a protest and counter protest over the issue. Some things caught my eye.

    “Shiite backers of the law say that foreigners are meddling in private Afghan affairs, and Wednesday’s demonstrations brought some of the emotions surrounding the debate over the law to the surface.”

    Becuase I thought that our military involvement in Afghanistan interfering with the local population was a point in trying to have a withdraw completely. In the points words again “Recognize that ultimately, decisions about what happens in Afghanistan should be made in Afghanistan, not Washington”. But what will be the reaction to this when promoting womens rights in Afghanistan is viewed as undesired Western interference?

    “As the back-and-forth continued, another demonstration of Shiite women who said they support the law began.

    “We don’t want foreigners interfering in our lives. They are the enemy of Afghanistan,” said 24-year-old Mariam Sajadi.

    Sajadi is engaged, and said she plans to ask her husband’s permission to leave the house as put forth in the law. She said other controversial articles — such as one giving the husband the right to demand sex from his wife every fourth day — have been misinterpreted by Westerners who are anti-Islam.”

  3. dcrowe says:

    Well, my response to that is this: the law as reported allows men to demand and receive sex from their wives at least once every four days. If senora isn’t willing, she doesn’t have a legal case to claim rape if he forces his “rights” on her. I don’t know how that can be “misinterpreted.”

    I understand your concern and am sympathetic to it, I think. You’re right insofar as our outrage over the law and pressure applied to repeal it very much is American interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs. However, I was not so much saying we should apply that kind of pressure, but that the law is something that should help the scales fall off our eyes if we think we’re picking a side in Afghanistan that’s gung-ho about women’s rights.

    Sorry for the delay in my response. It’s been hectic at work (although I feel goofy saying that to a combat medic currently in Iraq) and between that and Holy Week I needed to take a breather from the blog for a few days.

    How are you holding up? If you don’t mind me asking, do you subscribe to any particular religious persuasion, and if so, did you have a chance to observe it last week?

  4. Sporkmaster says:

    It is not that I am not in agreement with you over this law and how women are treated in general there. However regardless on what policies that we agree on or disagree on, that trying to change those may be viewed as unnecessary interference. I again to not disagree with pressure could change things but the line between pressure and interfering can be a grey one at best.

    I think that the problem here is that if we would try to have a government that would start major reform, (assuming that one could hold and maintain power) the Taliban would use that as a major recruiting too because of the drastic social change that we would try to emplace. The reasons why we are supporting the current government in Afghanistan is that they are not Taliban. The thinking is that if we can get this government and the anti-Taliban warlords to group together to fight AQ then they would prevent terrorist training camps from forming. Thus reduce the support that AQ can give to the different conflict zones around the world. Once that has happened then we can use our influence to help bring around further social change. But the idea that our support for this government will bring immediate change is unfounded.

    I can imagine it. Also consider that, what is your current job anyways now that I think about it.

    As far as religion goes, I do not have one. I rarely tell people that I am a Atheist, (in fact only a few people do no that) because nine times out of ten it will just get into all the million and one ways that I am going to burn in hell There are the few exceptions that spark some really good conversation but those are far and few in-between. There is more to that then just disbelief, but I think that is big enough for its own topic. But the thing here is the bases do try to observe each holidays as they come up. But each day feels similar to the next in that the sights rarely change unless you go out on missions. Thought they where creative with the chapel here by painting what looks like stained glass windows with various religious imagines on the concrete walls that surround the building to protect against incoming artillery to make things seem like home.

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